The Seattle SAGE Group (SSG)
Seattle based special interest group for system and network administrators.

Meeting Minutes November 14, 1996

What happened?

Once again we beat the record attendence level. However, Leeland had thought ahead and had almost enough seats on hand. There was still a couple of people who propped themselves up in the back of the room. Thanks to them the rear table managed to stand up correctly through the whole meeting. If meeting attendence keeps ramping up like this we will start using the auditorium in the basement just to have enough room. Leeland has already checked into how to reserve it and it stands ready at once we overflow the current facilities.

Our presentation was the first practice presentation for the SSG. Paul Forgey made a good show of it nonetheless. He managed to cover sendmail very well.

Known Bugs

  • The MBT building doors still lock up at 6pm. This must be. So we will make sure that someone will check the doors regularly (at least every 10 mins) for new attendees.

    • Meeting Highlites

    1) SSG Business
    Future organization (Chaos or Order)
    We started off with a short discussion on the possible future organization of the SSG. The overall (apathetic really) vote was for chaos. Or at least no one jumped up and called for a formal declaration of intentions. However, it was agreed that we need to establish a steering committee to attend to such matters as future speakers and events. More will be discussed in future meetings.

    2) Open floor comments and introductions
    A number of job offers and equipment available were discussed and placed on a side board for all those who were interested. This happened in the previous meetings as well. So they are becoming part of the norm. A side board will be made available at all future meetings for just these kinds of activities.

    3) Presentation by Paul Forgey
    "Making Sendmail Work..." (or Tricking Loki Made Easy)

    Paul's presentation covered sendmail very nicely. He started with where to get it, how to install it, and most importantly how to configure it. Obviously configuration took up the most time. We went through a number of examples from Paul's consulting jobs. Including a few humorous mail loop problems and the ever famous wrong size R stories. Paul was extremely knowledgable in sendmail and discussed at length the internals of the program. A topic he was obviously very comfortable with after having just finished the NT port of sendmail.

    4) Closing
    The meeting ended almost precisely on time with no real comments for the notes from the attendees.

    5) Dinner
    Those of us so inclined managed a rag tail follow the lost leader trek to The Keg in the U district. We all proceeded to make complete fools of ourselves, confuse the waiter something fierce and then sneak out before they called in the authorities. Paul joined us and the discussions on sendmail continued for a bit. But, soon turned into old war stories about the various sites we had all managed at one time or the other.

    The Next Meeting

    The next meeting is scheduled for December 12th. The topic to be presented is "Getting Dirty with CGI (or Pot Hole management 101)" by James Walden http://www-hep.phys.cmu.edu:8001/~walden.

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