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	<title>Seattle Area System Administrators Guild</title>
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		<title>Next Meeting: July 10th, 2008 at 7pm</title>
		<link>http://www.sasag.org/2008/06/22/next-meeting-july-10th-2008-at-7pm/</link>
		<comments>http://www.sasag.org/2008/06/22/next-meeting-july-10th-2008-at-7pm/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 05:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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Date:
July 10th, 2008


Time:
7pm


Place:
EE1 Building (Electrical Engineering)
Room 403
University of Washington Campus


Directions:
http://www.ee.washington.edu/contact.html


Subject:
The Methodology of Sustainable Computing.


Presenters:
David Bryan



The U.S. data center industry is in the midst of a major growth period fueled by increasing demand for data processing and storage.  As demands on data centers increase, and power usage and costs rise, the industry is looking for [...]]]></description>
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<td align="right" valign="top">Date:</td>
<td>July 10th, 2008</td>
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<td align="right" valign="top">Time:</td>
<td>7pm</td>
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<td align="right" valign="top">Place:</td>
<td><strong>EE1 Building (Electrical Engineering)</strong><br />
Room 403<br />
University of Washington Campus</td>
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<td align="right" valign="top">Directions:</td>
<td><strong><a href="http://www.ee.washington.edu/contact.html">http://www.ee.washington.edu/contact.html</a></strong></td>
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<td align="right" valign="top">Subject:</td>
<td>The Methodology of Sustainable Computing.</td>
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<td>David Bryan</td>
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<p>The U.S. data center industry is in the midst of a major growth period fueled by increasing demand for data processing and storage.  As demands on data centers increase, and power usage and costs rise, the industry is looking for ways to increase efficiency.  There is significant potential for energy-efficiency improvements in servers and in data centers today using methods and technologies currently available.  Sustainable computing is not a hardware choice: it is a methodology. In situations where ecological concerns and business interests intersect, there is no single solution that will result in &#8220;green computing&#8221;, but a comprhensive approach toward energy efficiency can yield signifcant improvements in data center energy usage.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>David Bryan is one of the founders of Silicon Mechanics and the company&#8217;s product development visionary. He guided the development of key innovations, including its online cluster configurator, blade configurator and dynamic power calculator applications. He holds a BS in Electrical Engineering from the University of Washington.</p>
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		<title>Next Meeting: June 12th, 2008 at 7pm</title>
		<link>http://www.sasag.org/2008/06/09/next-meeting-june-12th-2008-at-7pm/</link>
		<comments>http://www.sasag.org/2008/06/09/next-meeting-june-12th-2008-at-7pm/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 05:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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Date:
June 12th, 2008


Time:
7pm


Place:
EE1 Building (Electrical Engineering)
Room 403
University of Washington Campus


Directions:
http://www.ee.washington.edu/contact.html


Subject:
Using Puppet for Mac Workstation Configuration Management


Presenters:
Ski Kacoroski



This talk will discuss implementing the Puppet configuration management tool for Mac workstations.  We will talk about why Puppet was choosen over other tools, how Puppet was bootstrapped onto the workstations, some of the issues we have overcome (and [...]]]></description>
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<td>June 12th, 2008</td>
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<td align="right" valign="top">Time:</td>
<td>7pm</td>
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<td align="right" valign="top">Place:</td>
<td><strong>EE1 Building (Electrical Engineering)</strong><br />
Room 403<br />
University of Washington Campus</td>
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<td align="right" valign="top">Directions:</td>
<td><strong><a href="http://www.ee.washington.edu/contact.html">http://www.ee.washington.edu/contact.html</a></strong></td>
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<td align="right" valign="top">Subject:</td>
<td>Using Puppet for Mac Workstation Configuration Management</td>
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<td align="right" valign="top">Presenters:</td>
<td>Ski Kacoroski</td>
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<p>This talk will discuss implementing the Puppet configuration management tool for Mac workstations.  We will talk about why Puppet was choosen over other tools, how Puppet was bootstrapped onto the workstations, some of the issues we have overcome (and some that are still open), a few of the benefits of using Puppet, and plans for the future with Puppet at Northshore School District.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Ski Kacoroski is the Unix System Admin for the Northshore School District where is spends his time bemused by the differences between the Linux, Solaris, Mac and Windows machines he is responsible for managing.   In his free time he loves to hike, bike, and, along with his daughters, is a member of King County Explorer Search &amp; Rescue.</p>
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		<title>May 8th Room Change - We are in 303</title>
		<link>http://www.sasag.org/2008/05/07/may-8th-room-change-we-are-in-303/</link>
		<comments>http://www.sasag.org/2008/05/07/may-8th-room-change-we-are-in-303/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 00:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just wanted to drop a line for those who may not closely read the
meeting announcement, but we&#8217;ve been moved from our normal room 403 to
room 303. That should be just for this meeting.
&#8211;
Scott McDermott
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to drop a line for those who may not closely read the<br />
meeting announcement, but we&#8217;ve been moved from our normal room 403 to<br />
room 303. That should be just for this meeting.</p>
<p>&#8211;<br />
Scott McDermott</p>
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		<title>Next Meeting: May 8th, 2008 at 7pm</title>
		<link>http://www.sasag.org/2008/04/27/next-meeting-may-8th-2008-at-7pm/</link>
		<comments>http://www.sasag.org/2008/04/27/next-meeting-may-8th-2008-at-7pm/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ski</dc:creator>
		
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Date:
May 8th, 2008


Time:
7pm


Place:
EE1 Building (Electrical Engineering)
Room 403
University of Washington Campus


Directions:
http://www.ee.washington.edu/contact.html


Subject:
Introduction to Digital Forensics (aka Groveling Through File Systems)



Presenters:
Hal Pomeranz



While it may not be as sexy as they make it look on TV, there are a number of powerful Open Source tools available for analyzing file systems and recovering data&#8211; even data that may have been [...]]]></description>
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<td align="right" valign="top">Date:</td>
<td>May 8th, 2008</td>
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<td align="right" valign="top">Time:</td>
<td>7pm</td>
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<td align="right" valign="top">Place:</td>
<td><strong>EE1 Building (Electrical Engineering)</strong><br />
Room 403<br />
University of Washington Campus</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td align="right" valign="top">Directions:</td>
<td><strong><a href="http://www.ee.washington.edu/contact.html">http://www.ee.washington.edu/contact.html</a></strong></td>
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<td align="right" valign="top">Subject:</td>
<td><em><strong>Introduction to Digital Forensics (aka Groveling Through File Systems)<br />
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<td>Hal Pomeranz</td>
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<p>While it may not be as sexy as they make it look on TV, there are a number of powerful Open Source tools available for analyzing file systems and recovering data&#8211; even data that may have been deleted by the attacker.  This talk will start with an overview of the standard Unix file system architecture and discuss tools for imaging file systems, suggest useful idioms for detecting signs of a break-in, and cover how to discover &#8220;interesting&#8221; data from deleted files and re-assemble that data into an actual file image.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Hal Pomeranz is the founder and technical lead of Deer Run Associates, and has been active in the system and network management/security field for over twenty years.  As a senior member of the Faculty for the SANS Institute, Hal developed the SANS &#8220;Step-by-Step&#8221; course model and currently serves as the track coordinator and primary instructor for the SANS/GIAC Unix Security Certification track (GCUX).  In 2001 he was given the SAGE Outstanding Achievement Award for his teaching and leadership in the field of System Administration.</p>
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		<title>Next Meeting: April 10th, 2008 at 7pm</title>
		<link>http://www.sasag.org/2008/04/08/next-meeting-april-10th-2008-at-7pm/</link>
		<comments>http://www.sasag.org/2008/04/08/next-meeting-april-10th-2008-at-7pm/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 03:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ski</dc:creator>
		
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Date:
April 10th, 2008


Time:
7pm


Place:
EE1 Building (Electrical Engineering)
Room 403
University of Washington Campus


Directions:
http://www.ee.washington.edu/contact.html


Subject:
Why Do We Need Infrastructure



Presenters:
Lee Damon


Many people in the Unix and other computing communities accept without question the fact that we need infrastructure to make things work.  We accept this without actually thinking about _why_ we need infrastructure, what infrastructure is, or even how we [...]]]></description>
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<td align="right" valign="top">Date:</td>
<td>April 10th, 2008</td>
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<td align="right" valign="top">Time:</td>
<td>7pm</td>
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<tr>
<td align="right" valign="top">Place:</td>
<td><strong>EE1 Building (Electrical Engineering)</strong><br />
Room 403<br />
University of Washington Campus</td>
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<td align="right" valign="top">Directions:</td>
<td><strong><a href="http://www.ee.washington.edu/contact.html">http://www.ee.washington.edu/contact.html</a></strong></td>
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<td align="right" valign="top">Subject:</td>
<td><em><strong>Why Do We Need Infrastructure<br />
</strong></em></td>
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<td>Lee Damon</td>
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<p>Many people in the Unix and other computing communities accept without question the fact that we need infrastructure to make things work.  We accept this without actually thinking about _why_ we need infrastructure, what infrastructure is, or even how we make an &#8216;infrastructure&#8217;.</p>
<p>On the flip side there are managers, users, and even computing professionals who not only don&#8217;t know what an infrastructure is but question the very basis of the assumption that such a beast is of any use, let alone desirable.  They know their desktop system or the computer they have at home works and don&#8217;t see a need to go beyond that.</p>
<p>This talk will start with a basic analysis of what constitutes an infrastructure. It will then touch on why such a thing is often necessary.</p>
<p>Along the way we will briefly examine the difference between an infrastructure for supporting computing in general (&#8221;infrastructure architecture&#8221;) versus one for specific application support (&#8221;application architecture&#8221;) - which is needed when and why.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll take a moment to look at at some basic needs - both hardware and software.  We will see why things like common account information and network clocks are vital to a successful infrastructure.  We will look at the differences between homogeneous and heterogeneous infrastructures.  We will see that while no one solution works for everyone there are some basics that you can&#8217;t do without.</p>
<p>We will take side journeys into hardware needs - computer rooms/data-centers, network designs, upstream connections, etc - and put all of that together with a scale-to-fit-needs discussion to answer the basic question: &#8220;Why infrastructure?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Lee Damon has been a Unix system administrator since 1985 and has been active in SAGE since its inception. He assisted in developing a mixed AIX/SunOS environment at IBM Watson Research and has developed mixed environments for Gulfstream Aerospace and QUALCOMM. He is currently leading the development effort for the Nikola project at the University of Washington Electrical Engineering department. Among other professional activities, he is a charter member of LOPSA and SAGE and past chair of the SAGE Ethics and Policies working groups, and he was the chair of LISA &#8216;04.  He was awarded SAGE&#8217;s 2003 Outstanding Achievement Award &#8220;for service to SAGE and the system administration profession as a whole.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Next Meeting: March 13th, 2008 at 7pm</title>
		<link>http://www.sasag.org/2008/03/12/16/</link>
		<comments>http://www.sasag.org/2008/03/12/16/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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Date:
March 13th, 2008


Time:
7pm


Place:
EE1 Building (Electrical Engineering)
Room 403
University of Washington Campus


Directions:
http://www.ee.washington.edu/contact.html


Subject:
The  Guru is In, Moderated by Lee Damon 


Presenters:
&#160;


Come with your questions, ideas, and problems and the group will help you find answers and solutions.
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<td>March 13th, 2008</td>
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<td align="right" valign="top">Time:</td>
<td>7pm</td>
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<tr>
<td align="right" valign="top">Place:</td>
<td><strong>EE1 Building (Electrical Engineering)</strong><br />
Room 403<br />
University of Washington Campus</td>
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<tr>
<td align="right" valign="top">Directions:</td>
<td><strong><a href="http://www.ee.washington.edu/contact.html">http://www.ee.washington.edu/contact.html</a></strong></td>
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<td align="right" valign="top">Subject:</td>
<td><em><strong>The  Guru is In, Moderated by Lee Damon </strong></em></td>
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<td align="right" valign="top">Presenters:</td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
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<p>Come with your questions, ideas, and problems and the group will help you find answers and solutions.</p>
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		<title>Next Meeting: February 21st, 2008 at 7pm</title>
		<link>http://www.sasag.org/2008/02/10/next-meeting-february-21st-2008-at-7pm/</link>
		<comments>http://www.sasag.org/2008/02/10/next-meeting-february-21st-2008-at-7pm/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 18:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ski</dc:creator>
		
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Date:
February 21st, 2008


Time:
7pm


Place:
EE1 Building (Electrical Engineering)
Room 403
University of Washington Campus


Directions:
http://www.ee.washington.edu/contact.html


Subject:
Scaling Nagios to monitor large heterogeneous enviroments


Presenters:
Dr. Dave Blunt


The open source Nagios project has been in wide use for a number of years for monitoring of IT infrastructure.  Learn how Nagios can be coupled with other open source tools for monitoring of large environments which [...]]]></description>
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<td>February 21st, 2008</td>
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<td align="right" valign="top">Time:</td>
<td>7pm</td>
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<td align="right" valign="top">Place:</td>
<td><strong>EE1 Building (Electrical Engineering)</strong><br />
Room 403<br />
University of Washington Campus</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td align="right" valign="top">Directions:</td>
<td><strong><a href="http://www.ee.washington.edu/contact.html">http://www.ee.washington.edu/contact.html</a></strong></td>
</tr>
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<td align="right" valign="top">Subject:</td>
<td><em><strong>Scaling Nagios to monitor large heterogeneous enviroments</strong></em></td>
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<td>Dr. Dave Blunt</td>
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<p>The open source Nagios project has been in wide use for a number of years for monitoring of IT infrastructure.  Learn how Nagios can be coupled with other open source tools for monitoring of large environments which contain a mix of operating systems and device types.  A key aim of this talk is to prompt discussion of monitoring problems you face today and provide possible solutions using open source tools.</p>
<p>Dave Blunt currently manages Professional Services for GroundWork Open Source, Inc. and has previously held roles as system administrator, systems architect, manager of internal and production IT organizations, and IT consultant.</p>
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		<title>Reminder: Next Meeting is TONIGHT at 7pm</title>
		<link>http://www.sasag.org/2008/01/10/reminder-next-meeting-is-tonight-at-7pm/</link>
		<comments>http://www.sasag.org/2008/01/10/reminder-next-meeting-is-tonight-at-7pm/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jonl</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[As a reminder, our next meeting is tonight at 7pm. Ski Kacoroski will be talking about Lessons learned on implementing a large scale NAS.
]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a reminder, our next meeting is tonight at 7pm. Ski Kacoroski will be talking about <a href="http://www.sasag.org/2008/01/04/next-meeting-january-10-2008/">Lessons learned on implementing a large scale NAS</a>.</p>
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		<title>Next Meeting: January 10, 2008</title>
		<link>http://www.sasag.org/2008/01/04/next-meeting-january-10-2008/</link>
		<comments>http://www.sasag.org/2008/01/04/next-meeting-january-10-2008/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 19:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jonl</dc:creator>
		
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Date:
January 10, 2008


Time:
7pm


Place:
EE1 Building (Electrical Engineering)
Room 403
University of Washington Campus


Directions:
http://www.ee.washington.edu/contact.html


Subject:
Lessons learned on implementing a large scale NAS


Presenters:
Ski Kacoroski


Northshore School District just finished initial implementation of a multi-protocol NAS solution for all file system services.  This talk will discuss the system selection criteria/results, test criteria/results, technical details on the winning system, and Northshore&#8217;s implementation experience.
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<td>January 10, 2008</td>
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<td align="right" valign="top">Time:</td>
<td>7pm</td>
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<tr>
<td align="right" valign="top">Place:</td>
<td><strong>EE1 Building (Electrical Engineering)</strong><br />
Room 403<br />
University of Washington Campus</td>
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<td align="right" valign="top">Directions:</td>
<td><strong><a href="http://www.ee.washington.edu/contact.html">http://www.ee.washington.edu/contact.html</a></strong></td>
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<td align="right" valign="top">Subject:</td>
<td><em><strong>Lessons learned on implementing a large scale NAS</strong></em></td>
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<td align="right" valign="top">Presenters:</td>
<td>Ski Kacoroski</td>
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<p>Northshore School District just finished initial implementation of a multi-protocol NAS solution for all file system services.  This talk will discuss the system selection criteria/results, test criteria/results, technical details on the winning system, and Northshore&#8217;s implementation experience.</p>
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		<title>New Site is Live</title>
		<link>http://www.sasag.org/2007/12/16/new-site-is-live/</link>
		<comments>http://www.sasag.org/2007/12/16/new-site-is-live/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 18:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As you can see, the new SASAG website is now live.  The old site is still available as well.
I&#8217;m still interested in comments and suggestions regarding improvements to the site. The following suggestions were made at the SASAG meeting:

Make the front page for meeting announcements only, and have separate pages for, e.g., posts about [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you can see, the new SASAG website is now live.  The <a href="http://www.sasag.org/old-site">old site</a> is still available as well.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still interested in comments and suggestions regarding improvements to the site. The following suggestions were made at the SASAG meeting:</p>
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<li>Make the front page for meeting announcements only, and have separate pages for, e.g., posts about the Web site, book reviews, and so on.</li>
<li>Obfuscate e-mail addresses automatically</li>
<li>Implement a system so that posts can be written, then later posted automatically based on the date.</li>
</ul>
<p>I like all three of these suggestions, but don&#8217;t know how to implement any of them in WordPress. I&#8217;m fairly sure that it involves writing plugins, however. I did search, but didn&#8217;t find plugins that do any of the above. If anyone wants to take a crack at writing these, or knows of existing plugins that fill these roles, please <a href="mailto:jon@lasser.org">mail me</a> or comment here.</p>
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